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Sunday, February 6, 2011

"Egypt Protest Leaders Meet With Prime Minister" and related posts

CAIRO - Leaders of Egypt's unprecedented wave of anti-government protests have held talks with the prime minister over ways to ease President Hosni Mubarak out of office. Under one proposal, the 82-year-old leader would hand his powers to his vice president, though not his title immediately, to give him a graceful exit.

Mubarak has staunchly refused to leave, insisting on serving out the rest of his term until September, and his aides have repeatedly said in recent days that the country's leader of nearly 30 years must not be dumped in a humiliating way.

The protesters, in turn, say they will not stop their giant rallies or enter substantive negotiations on democratic reform until Mubarak quits. Thousands continued to gather Saturday in Cairo's central Tahrir Square, a day after some 100,000 protesters massed there demanding Mubarak leave power immediately.

A self-declared group of Egypt's elite -- called the "group of wise men" -- has circulated ideas to try to break that deadlock. Among them is a proposal that Mubarak "deputize" his Vice President Omar Suleiman with his powers and, for the time being at least, step down in everything but name.

The "wise men," who are separate from the protesters on the ground, have met twice in recent days with Suleiman and the prime minister, said Amr el-Shobaki, a member of the group.

Their proposals also call for the dissolving of the parliament monopolized by the ruling party and the end of emergency laws that give security forces near-unlimited powers.

Late Friday, a delegation from the protesters themselves meet with Shafiq to discuss ways out of the impasse, said Abdel-Rahman Youssef, a youth activist who participated in the meeting.

Youssef told The Associated Press on Saturday that the meeting was not a start of negotiations. "It was a message to see how to resolve the crisis. The message is that they must recognize the legitimacy of the revolution and that president must leave one way or the other, either real or political departure," he said.

The protesters are looking into the proposal floated by the "wise men," said Youssef, who is part of the youth movement connected to Nobel Peace laureate and prominent reform advocate Mohamed ElBaradei.

"It could be a way out of the crisis," Youssef said. "But the problem is in the president...he is not getting it that he has become a burden on everybody, psychologically, civicly and militarily."

Israa Abdel-Fattah, a member of the April 6 group, another of the youth movements driving the demonstrations, said there is support for the wise men's proposal among protesters.
Youssef underlined that the 12-day-old protests will continue in Tahrir Square until Mubarak goes in an acceptable way.

"There is no force that can get the youth out of the square. Every means was used. Flexibility, violence, live ammunition, and even thugs, and the protesters are still steadfast," he said, referring to an assault by regime supporters on Wednesday that sparked 48 hours of heavy street fighting until protesters succeeded in driving off the attackers.

On Saturday, soldiersutted vehicles that protesters used as barricades during the fighting, but protesters argued with them for the vehicles to remain. Rumors also circulated in the square that the military -- which has surrounded Tahrir for days -- was preparing to withdraw, so some protesters lay on the ground in front of tanks to prevent them. The protesters see the military as a degree of protection from police or regime supporters they fear will attack again, though the government promised Friday not to try to eject the protesters by force.

The emergence of various talks and players marked a new stage in the evolution in the crisis as all sides try to shape the post-Mubarak transition.

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Protests Across America

Hundreds gathered to protest Mubarak's regime across the United States today, the AP reports:

About 150 people gathered outside the New Orleans federal building to demand that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak step down. Meanwhile, about 180 people demonstrated in Atlanta outside the headquarters of CNN. In Washington, more than 100 marched from the Egyptian Embassy to the White House, following protests in that city on Tuesday and last Saturday. Rallies were also held in New York and Seattle.

Full story here.

NYT Analysis: America's Complex Egypt Policy

The New York Times posted a news analysis about the White House's complicated policy in Egypt:

The latest challenge came Saturday afternoon when the man sent last weekend by President Obama to persuade the 82-year-old leader to step out of the way, Frank G. Wisner, told a group of diplomats and security experts that SPresident Mubarak"s continued leadership is critical it"s his opportunity to write his own legacy.

Secretary of State Hilary Rodham Clinton immediately tried to recalibrate those remarks, repeating the latest iteration of the administration"s evolving strategy. At a minimum, she said, Mr. Mubarak must move out of the way so that his vice president, Omar Suleiman, can engage in talks with protest leaders over everything from constitutional changes to free and fair elections.

It is hardly the first time the Obama administration has seemed uncertain on its feet during the Egyptian crisis, as it struggles to stay on the right side of history and to avoid accelerating a revolution that could spin out of control.

Full story here.

Protesters Fear Retribution, But Press On

HuffPost's Jake Bialer reports:

Even as members of Egyptian government make concessions, some political activists are worried about their safety and the future of Egypt. This is especially true as work is expected to resume for many this week.

"The calmer things are, the more the fear there will be because the Ministry of Defense people will be back to work," Cairo native Eman Hashim told the Huffington Post by phone.

Activists are concerned by the continued detainment of their associates, the words of politicians, and the broadcasts of state media.

Read the whole story here.

Christian Mass Planned

Reports are surfacing on Twitter that a Christian mass will be held in Cairo's Tahrir Square at 2pm tomorrow.

ElBaradei: Protests Could Turn More Violent

In an interview with Reuters, leading opposition activist Mohamed ElBaradei warned that protests in Egypt could turn even more violent:

"There is of course a little fatigue everywhere," he told Reuters, adding that there was a "hard core" of demonstrators who would not give up as long as Mubarak held onto power.

"It might not be every day but what I hear is that they might stage demonstrations every other day," ElBaradei said. "The difference is that it would become more angry and more vicious. And I do not want to see it turning from a beautiful, peaceful revolution into a bloody revolution."

Full story here.

Blogger: We Are Not Winning 'By A Long Shot'

Blogger Sandmonkey, who has been participating in and chronicling the protests in Egypt, shared his thoughts on developments in the country in a new post on his blog today.

Most notably, Sandmonkey explained that "even though it appears we are winning...we are not by a long shot" and mentioned there is still much work ahead to remove Mubarak from power.

Calling for Mubarak to step down and an Egyptian Unity party to be formed, he says, "so far we have proved all the critics and the haters wrong. It"s time to do that again!"

BBC: Muslin Brotherhood 'To Join Talks'

The BBC reports that Egypt's Muslin Brotherhood, its most powerful opposition group, will enter into talks with officials about ending the crisis:

The group told Reuters the talks would begin on Sunday and would aim to assess how far the government was "ready to accept the demands of the people".

The Brotherhood had earlier said it would not take part in the negotiations with Vice-President Omar Suleiman.

Full story here.

Central Bank: Egypt Can Deal With Crisis

Reuters reports that the Central Bank said Egypt has the reserves and experience to deal with the economic outfall from the crisis:

The central bank said on Saturday that growth which had been forecast at 6 percent would be hit by Egypt's political crisis and outflows could hit $8 billion in two weeks but Egypt had reserves and experience to deal with it.

Speaking on the evening before banks open on Sunday after being closed for a week due to anti-government protests, Governor Farouk el-Okdah said Egypt's reserves were adequate at $36 billion, the figure at the end of December.

Full story here.

Obama Calls Other Leaders

In a call to other major world leaders, Obama stressed the importance of Egypt's immediate transition, Reuters reports:

President Barack Obama called leaders from Germany, Britain and the United Arab Emirates on Saturday to discuss the situation in Egypt and the need for political change there, the White House said.

"The President emphasized the importance of an orderly, peaceful transition, beginning now, to a government that is responsive to the aspirations of the Egyptian people, including credible, inclusive negotiations between the government and the opposition," the White House said in a summary of Obama's conversations.

More details here.

LA Times: Change In Egypt Could Restore Its Centrality

The LA Times published a piece about how change in Egypt could restore its centrality in the Arab world:

For centuries, before its steady decline of recent decades, Egypt was the center of the Arab world; Cairo its focus of learning, culture and political power. Now, the country suddenly is changing again in ways likely to reshape the region for years to come.

The implications encompass religion, the role of the military and the meaning of citizenship in authoritarian societies. The changes will complicate relations with Israel and pose challenges for U.S. foreign policy. They will affect rising non-Arab powers such as Turkey and Iran.

Full story here.

ElBaradei Criticizes U.S. Approach To Egypt

In a phone interview from Cairo, Mohamed ElBaradei told Reuters on Saturday that it would be a "major setback" if the United States were to support either Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak or Vice President Omar Suleiman to lead a transitional government:

ElBaradei, a veteran diplomat and leading opposition activist, was asked about reports that Washington could support Suleiman or Mubarak to lead a transitional government. "If that were true ... that would be a major setback, I can tell you that," he told Reuters in a telephone interview from Cairo.

"If things that I hear today (are true), that would come down like lead on the people who have been demonstrating," he said.

Full story here.

Tunisian Police Kill Two

The Associated Press reports that a Tunisian police chief in the northwestern town of Klef fired on a crowd of protesters, killing two and wounding 17 others:

Regional prefect Mohamed Najib Tlijali, calling for calm on a local radio Saturday night, said the police official was himself hospitalized and under arrest.

A local journalist who witnessed the events said the violence erupted after the police chief slapped a woman, angering the crowd, which began throwing stones. The eyewitness reached by phone asked not to be identified.

Full story here.

Statement From Egypt's Ruling Party

The New York Times has published the following statement from Egypt's ruling National Democratic Party, which also clarified that President Hosni Mubarak indeed still remains in control:

"President Mohamed Hosni Mubarak, in his capacity as president of the National Democratic Party, accepted the resignation of the NDP's politburo, and appointed new members including:

Dr. Hosam Mohamed Badrawi - Secretary-General and Policy Secretary

Dr. Mohamed Ragah Ahmed - Assistant Secretary-General and Organization Secretary

Dr. Mohamed Ahmed Abd El-Illah - Assistant Secretary-General and Media Secretary

Mr. Maged Mahmoud Younes El-Shirbiny - Membership Secretary

Eng. Mohamed Ahmed Abd El-Salam Hebah - Youth Secretary

Dr. Mohamed Mostafa Kamal, Political Awareness and Training Secretary

Full story here.

Comments From Egyptian Activist Wael Abbas

HuffPost's Jake Bialer spoke to Egyptian activist Wael Abbas, most famous for exposing police abuses in his county. Abbas offered the following comments:

On Mubarak's resignation:

"Mubarak is trying to make more concessions, but he's not making the concession people are demanding in the first place, which is he should resign himself."

On the general mood of political activists:

"They are happy with this latest resignation, but this not what they wanted. They want Mubarak himself to resign."

On how long the protests will last:

"Until the demands are fulfilled."

Israeli President: Mubarak A Peacemaker

The LA Times reports that Israeli President Shimon Peres defended Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak during a conference on Saturday:

SIn spite of all the attacks against President Mubarak, I know him for many years, throughout his presidency, and I accredit him as one of the persons who saved many lives by preventing war in the Middle East, who saved lives of Egyptians, of Arabs, of Israelis, by not allowing to renew a war," Peres said at the EFI Policy Conference in Jerusalem.

Full story here.

Why Mubarak's Departure Won't Lead To Chaos

HuffPost's Dan Froomkin reports:

There is no reason Americans should accept the premise that President Hosni Mubarak is the only thing standing between chaos and/or Islamic theocracy in Egypt.

So says Bruce Rutherford, a political science professor at Colgate University. Everyone seems to be imagining what post-Mubarak Egypt will look like these days, but Rutherford gamed it out years ago for his 2008 book, "Egypt after Mubarak: Liberalism, Islam, and Democracy in the Arab World."

Mubarak's insistence that there would be chaos if he resigned is, in fact, "a very inaccurate portrayal of contemporary Egypt," Rutherford said.

Mubarak, in that way, would have us believe that he is another Saddam Hussein and Egypt is another Iraq. "The state really did collapse once Saddam left," Rutherford said. "But Egypt is a very different place."

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